And then there was one: Talking with Micky Dolenz

Hey hey, he’s The Monkee.

Davy, Mike and Peter have all passed on to that groovy beach pad in the sky, leaving Micky the sole remaining members of the Monkees.

He’s George Michael “Micky” Dolenz, 80, torchbearer of one of ‘60s rock’s most enduring legacies. And he’s performing his Songs & Stories show at the Capitol Theatre Thursday, April 10.

The Monkees was a two-season musical comedy series (1966-68) on NBC. Its four stars – Dolenz, Davy Jones, Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork – auditioned like every other actor in Hollywood (Dolenz was the only one with TV series experience, having worked as a child star in the 1950s).

Improbably, the Monkees’ tie-in records, many of which (but not all) were created by studio musicians, with the actors overdubbing lead vocals, outlived not only the TV series but the ravages of time and changing tastes.

Today they’re considered cornerstones of solid ‘60s pop: “I’m a Believer,” “Last Train to Clarksville,” “A Little Bit Me, a Little Bit You,” “I’m Not Your Stepping Stone,” “Pleasant Valley Sunday,” “Daydream Believer” and “Listen to the Band.” And more.

  

It’s got to be bittersweet, if that’s the word, to be the last man standing.

Micky Dolenz: That’s the perfect way to put it. It is. I’m still a little bit bewildered, a little bit like “What the hell happened?,” you know? Because they’re around me all the time. I’m sitting here in my office, going through old stuff and photos and things, and everywhere I look, it’s the other three guys. Everywhere.

 

I sat with Davy about 20 years ago at his horse stable in Florida, and the impression he gave me was that it was, over the years, more like a business relationship than anything else. Is that fairly accurate to say?

Business relationship between who?

 

The four of you – what he’d said was, doing those reunion tours wasn’t exactly a lot of fun. He was not kind about any of you. And then after Davy passed, Michael came back in after keeping clear for so long.

I cannot speak for anybody else. I won’t. I can only tell you how I felt about it. And if that’s good enough for you, fine, but I’m not going to even go there at all, what I think Davy felt about it, or Mike or Peter, no. I’m not going to go there. But remember that the Monkees started out as a television show, was not a group in any traditional, classic sense of the word. Never was. It was a television show about this group.

And speaking for myself, only, I was cast in this television show to play the part of a wacky drummer/singer. Which I did. We all met one day on the lot, when they said “You guys are the Monkees.” So in that sense, yeah, total business.

Especially for me – and I will say that David did approach it like that a little bit, because he’d also been in the business. He’d been on Broadway. He’d been on television in the U.K. So yeah, there was that degree of “This is a job, and let’s see how it goes” and all that.

 

In interviews, everybody seemed to have their own axes to grind about why they didn’t want to do (the reunions) any more. “We’re not really friends,” that kind of thing.

Yeah … what’s your question? [laughing]

 

Are you surprised to still be talking about stuff you did 60 years ago?

Not any more, frankly. You would think so, but there’s a lot of my peers, and people in the world of art, from that era, who are still talking about it. You know, we could name a whole bunch. And they’re still out and active, still doing projects, still recording, all kinds of stuff. They say that 80 is the new 40 or something, I don’t know [laughing]. Whatever.

I think the longevity, first of all, comes from the quality of the original material. And in my case, I had some of the greatest songwriters. I put an awful lot of the success of the Monkee music to the songwriters. Because we had some of the best. Well, that material stands up because the original material stands up. And when you have a song written by Neil Diamond or Carole King or Boyce & Hart, those people don’t write many duff tunes. That’s the reason, essentially, why the music stands up.

And of course, I’d like to think I had something to do with it, on vocals and playing and stuff. But there’s also producers, musicians, singers and record company promotion, all that kind of stuff goes along with it.

The TV show, I would put in a similar vein. If you looked at the pedigree of the people that were doing the television show … the guy that created it, Bob Rafelson, for goodness sake, who became a huge film director. And then you had the writers on the show. Paul Mazursky wrote the pilot. And Jackie Cooper, the former child star, was the head of Screen Gems television. So you had all this pedigree.

And there’s no guarantees, as we know. If there were guarantees, there’d never be a flop.

The way I look at it, suddenly the whole becomes greater than the sum of its parts.

 

Was there a point, say in the ‘70s, when you resented it? “I still have a career – can we put this Monkee thing behind us now?”

No, not at all. I can only speak for myself. I was a child star also, as you may know, in a show in the ‘50s called Circus Boy. And after Circus Boy was canceled – because I got too big, too old – I just went back to school. Both my parents were in the business; that was the family business. So when the show was canceled it was oh, show’s canceled, back to school. So there was no post-Circus Boy trauma of any nature. I was only 12 years old, so my parents very wisely took me out of the business. I did some guest shots here and there over the years, and almost to the day, 10 years later, I went to the Monkee audition.

But I’ve always approached it as a business, for the most part. So fast-forward, when The Monkees was canceled, I had already been there. I had no problem with moving on. I had already started a production company, because I wanted to direct. And write. I’d already been in the business 15 years. So I was ready to move on and do something else.

And again, I don’t want to speak for the other guys, ‘cause that’s not fair, but everybody, I seem to remember had this feeling – including the producers – of “been there, done that. Let’s move on.”

So the long answer to your question? No, I had no resentment. Because I also got lucky. I went to England to do a play, and I happened to have married an English girl, so I could work over there. I gave a local agent my reel at the time, and she got me a job directing for the BBC. And I never looked back. I was there 15 years, directing and producing. And I was very successful, if I do say so myself. After a while, people stopped referring to me as “Ex-Monkee Micky Dolenz.” It was “Television producer Michael Dolenz is announcing the launch of his new series.”

 

Tell me about this new Songs & Stories show of yours.

We all did solo shows, after the Monkees, and I’ve done (reunion) shows, with two, three and four. I have tended to be the consistent one, and that was mainly because I sang the majority of the hits. Not all! And also, I never had an axe to grind! I’ve been very, very successful, but then again I did not, after the Monkees, try to carve out a new career as a solo artist. And that is what most people do when they leave a show, a group, a this, a that.

What I learned, over the years: I’ve always done solo shows, and I’ve always done the big Monkee hits. No medleys; I do them in their entirety.

In England, my wife at the time got me tickets to see the Everly Brothers reunion at Albert Hall. And I was concerned because sometimes artists don’t want to play the old hits. But they did: When they did “Wake Up Little Susie,” I was clapping and singing along – [singing and mock-weeping] wake up, little Susie ….

This was when I was directing and producing, you know. No intention of going back on the road – or ever going back, singing or anything. But I remember thinking that if I ever do, if anybody ever asks me to go back and do this stuff, I am going to give the audience what they want. I’m going to make sure they get those songs as they remember them.

And I’ve stuck with that policy, all these years. But then I found out that once you’ve fulfilled this unspoken contract – they know they’re going to get “I’m a Believer,” “Clarksville,” “Pleasant Valley Sunday,” “Stepping Stone,” whatever, then you can go off and do deep cuts, album cuts, and in my case I started doing other people’s material that has a point to it.

I’ll do Chuck Berry’s “Johnny B. Goode,” for example, and I’ll tell the story of why it makes sense: That song was my audition piece for The Monkees. And the audience loves it.

It’s a rock ‘n’ roll concert, and I pepper the great Monkee hits with some of these stories.

 

Do you take any interest at all in the many reissues and special deluxe editions of the Monkees’ albums? Are you involved in any of that? Do they run anything by you?

Never. Never. I wouldn’t mind contributing, but to date, no. I don’t ever remember being approached about anything like that, ever.

Written for the St. Pete Catalyst, 2025.

Peter Tork: Don’t step on my Shoe Suede Blues

Don’t hold your breath waiting for another Monkees reunion. Although the prefab four toured to great success in the ’80s and ’90s, Peter Tork says things are a bit dicier these days.

“I don’t think about doing it again much,” Tork offers by phone from his home in California. “If the occasion arose, I would have to look at the offer.”

Tork and his band Shoe Suede Blues will perform Sunday at the Stuart ArtsFest.

All four original Monkees — Tork, Micky Dolenz, Davy Jones and even longtime holdout Michael Nesmith — played together on a 1997 tour of England.

“When Michael did do the shows with us, it was exciting,” says the 62-year-old Tork. “It was great to work on the road with those guys – particularly as time wore on, they got to be funnier and funnier, and easier to work with.”

Nesmith had previously refused to indulge in Monkees nostalgia – he’d always been the Monkee most offended by their “manufactured” past and the attendant rock-media scorn – and the other three had worked without him for years.

The British tour was a commercial and critical smash. However, when promoters started clamoring for a U.S. jaunt, Nesmith balked.

“I don’t know how he came to be this way,” Tork says, “but the poor boy basically can’t work with anybody else. He has learned over the years to allow other people into his orbit, which only means that he is now in control of a larger crew than he ever had before.

“He didn’t want to work with the Monkees anymore. The reason he didn’t come back to America with us was that when he joined the operation, he made sure it was his way or the highway. But even that wasn’t enough for him. I don’t think he had enough control.”

The Monkees’ legacy is a spotty one. Hired in 1966 to portray four “American Beatles” in an NBC sitcom, the four had never met before; their music was an afterthought and performed by studio musicians. For their early hits — the chart-topping “Last Train to Clarksville” and “I’m a Believer” among them — they didn’t play any music, just mimed to their pre-recorded vocals on the TV show.

Musicians both, Nesmith and Tork bristled at the heavy-handed “music supervision” of Don Kirshner, who chose the songs they’d record, and when it came out in the press that the Monkees weren’t a “real” band, they got mad.

When the records started to sell in the millions, and the power was theirs, they had Kirshner fired.

Hindsight reveals that many Monkees recordings rank with some of the greatest ’60s pop music. The Beach Boys, after all, used studio pros on “Pet Sounds,” and nobody came after Brian Wilson with an ax to grind.

From “Pleasant Valley Sunday” and “A Little Bit Me, a Little Bit You” to the landmark albums Headquarters and Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn and Jones Ltd. (both recorded by the Monkees themselves, augmented by studio players) there are some great records in the canon.

“I would have liked to see (the music) produced a bit more heavily,” Tork says, “but part of the TV producers’ brief was ‘Don’t scare the parents.’ They tried to walk a very fine line, and I think they did a pretty good job of it. I’d like to have seen the whole thing go on a little longer, but them’s the breaks.”

Indeed, Tork was the first to break camp, in 1968, after the cancellation of the TV show and the Monkees’ disastrously received movie Head.

“You know the expression ‘received wisdom’?” he says. “The received wisdom on it (the band) was that it was a lower-value effort because it was structured and cast as characters in a TV show.

“It was highly structured as a project — and the received wisdom was that that was a lower value than what seemed to be spontaneous projects, which meant the Beatles. They were spontaneous; we were structured.

“I didn’t know then what I know now — that all great careers have a really nasty lull in the middle. I wish I had, then I might have stuck with it longer, and it might have come back.”

Tork, whose new band plays a lot of heavy blues, along with rock ‘n’ roll classics and a smattering of Monkees hits, has very definite thoughts on the Monkees’ catalogue.

“The best Monkees music ever generated was ‘Riu Chiu,’ an a capella song in medieval Spanish that we did on the Christmas episode,” he says. “It shows up on a couple of the Missing Links CDs.

“It’s an astounding piece of music. As far as I’m concerned, it’s just amazing. We sang it live to camera.

“I love ‘Goin’ Down,’ which we did spontaneously in the studio. I think ‘Pleasant Valley Sunday’ is the best single we put out. And I thought ‘Words’ was a very, very good piece of pop music. And we did it justice.”

(For the record, Tork – who didn’t do a lot of lead singing in the group – plays piano on “Daydream Believer” and banjo on “You Told Me,” among many other great songs, and took the co-lead vocal on “Shades of Grey” and “Words.”)

A recurring role in the ’90s sitcom Boy Meets World (as Topanga’s hippie dad) almost led to a rekindling of his acting career, but Tork says he thought better of it.

“The truth is that I got off as an actor maybe once or twice in acting class,” he says. “I get off as a musician every time I’m up there.

“When the rewards are greater and the price is way lower . . . let’s see, a lot of trouble and a few rewards, or not as much trouble and a lot of rewards . . . let me think here . . . gosh. I can’t figure it out.”

WHERE ARE THE MONKEES NOW?

Davy Jones, 58, owns a home in Indiantown where he trains thoroughbred horses. Jones won’t be able to join Peter Tork onstage this weekend: He’s in England, on tour. April 16-19, he’ll perform at the International Flower and Garden Fest at Epcot Center. See Davy Jones.net.

Micky Dolenz, 59, is appearing on Broadway as Zoser in the Elton John/Tim Rice musical “Aida.” See Micky Dolenz.com.

Michael Nesmith, 63, maintains a cult following for his quirky recordings and concert performances. A pioneer in music videos, he is credited with inventing the concept that led to MTV. See Video Ranch.com.

 

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